I think talent is overrated. Talent's important but the real accelerant, the real coefficient that's the mystery number is hard, hard frickin' work.
And then Jack talks about reading Steve Martin's autobiography and why he feels like a standup comedian. He works with no set list and is very "off the cuff" onstage.
I've always felt about my stuff that I'm like a standup comedian onstage. I treat the scenario exactly like they do. Every time I hear a standup comedian talk about his craft or what he's doing, like that comedian was ripping off my jokes or taking my material or I did this joke and it bombed and I took it out of the set or the next joke i told murdered, I think, "That's exactly how I play music onstage."
Later on in the interview, they discuss Jack's favorite song...
...the lack of instrumentation reminds me of a White Stripes song that returns to my brain a lot as relevant to standup (or any creative thing really): "Little Room."
Well you're in your little room
And you're working on something good
But if it's really good
You're gonna need a bigger room
And when you're in the bigger room
You might not know what to do
You might have to think of
How you got started in your little room
Da da da